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now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment started the initial investigation. a senior defense official traveling with panetta says 20,000 to 30,000 pages of epail and other documents from general allen's communications with kelley are under review. the official says general allen disputes engaging in any wrong doing in the matter. the fbi referred the matter to the department of defense for investigation on sunday. early this morning secretary panetta directed that the defense department's inspector general investigate. last night fbi agents went to
now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill...
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joining us is john stanton. thank you for being here. >> it's good to be here. >> what do you think seems newly possible now? election reform? filibuster reform in the senate? anything on immigration? does any of that seem viable to you? >> i hate to be a wet blanket, but immigration reform, yes. there's certainly a possibility that immigration reform in some manner could be done. the problem there, though, frankly is that john boehner has come out and said, look, i want to do this. we learned a lesson from the election. a lot of republicans feel they need to do something. the problem is when you start to dig into what they are saying f you look at what john boehner said earlier this week, he said first a step by step approach. we want to do border and then visas and then do some other things. that's very much what republicans have been saying for the last several years. they don't want to do a comprehensive deal. they want to do rifle shot legislation. and advocates of immigration reform are very opposed to tha
joining us is john stanton. thank you for being here. >> it's good to be here. >> what do you think seems newly possible now? election reform? filibuster reform in the senate? anything on immigration? does any of that seem viable to you? >> i hate to be a wet blanket, but immigration reform, yes. there's certainly a possibility that immigration reform in some manner could be done. the problem there, though, frankly is that john boehner has come out and said, look, i want to do...
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let's take a look at some of the stuff from john mccain here. it's been four years since john mccain lost his presidential bid. just ten days since mitt romney lost, but they still be both holding a grudge apparently against the president in their bitter comments this week. listen to romney's conference call about obama's gifts and mccain's complaints about obama ally u.n. ambassador susan rice. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressive to turn them out to vote. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> joy reid, let's go after romney first and the way he's calculating how he lost. now, you can give all kinds of reasons for losing and fair enough, that's what you do in your head. but when you spout the argument that the other guy bough
let's take a look at some of the stuff from john mccain here. it's been four years since john mccain lost his presidential bid. just ten days since mitt romney lost, but they still be both holding a grudge apparently against the president in their bitter comments this week. listen to romney's conference call about obama's gifts and mccain's complaints about obama ally u.n. ambassador susan rice. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give...
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john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denouncing the scandal that congress is not being given enough information about this horrible scandal that he can't get any answers on. while john mccain was demanding answers at this press conference, that he convened yesterday morning, some of this colleagues, from a committee that he's a member of, were getting answers. on the subject that he was so mad about. john mccain was missing a three-hour high-level closed classified briefing on what exactly happened in benghazi from representatives of the state department, national counterterrorism center, fbi, john mccain did not get any of the classified briefing, did not get any of that information or questions answered by any of those people because he skipped the briefing and instead went and yelled at tv cameras about how he couldn't get any information. and when a cnn producer had the good sense to ask senator mccain about why he was yelling about not
john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denouncing the scandal that congress is not being given enough information about this horrible scandal that he can't get any answers on. while john mccain was demanding answers at this press conference, that he convened yesterday morning, some of this colleagues, from a committee that he's a member of, were getting answers. on the subject that he was so mad about. john mccain was...
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but, you know, obviously john kerry would be a great candidate. susan rice would be a great candidate. but what the president said today was, if i choose susan rice, it's because i think she's the most qualified person for the job, and i'm not going to let your bs stand in the way of me nominating her for that. >> in terms of the tone that we're hearing from the president here, i am not one of those people who believes in like following body language as opposed to following policy fights, but it is striking that we saw the president at that debate with mitt romney, where it quickly spiralled into the false fact check and the please proceed and everything. we saw the president at that debate and we saw the president again today sort of bring the room to a halt, stop everybody, and look really pissed. i have not seen that very much in covering him as president. are there instances -- you've worked with and around him since going back to 2007. is there a pattern to when he gets mad about stuff? >> well, he has only a certain tolerance for some of the
but, you know, obviously john kerry would be a great candidate. susan rice would be a great candidate. but what the president said today was, if i choose susan rice, it's because i think she's the most qualified person for the job, and i'm not going to let your bs stand in the way of me nominating her for that. >> in terms of the tone that we're hearing from the president here, i am not one of those people who believes in like following body language as opposed to following policy fights,...
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john mccain did that. it was the greatest act of sheer irresponsibility i have ever seen in a presidential candidate. here is something that john mccain has never once said about sarah palin. >> we're all responsible for what we say and what we do. >> he has never said that. never once said that sarah palin has ever, ever said anything that perhaps she shouldn't have said. he defended every word sarah palin said as his choice to be vice president of the united states, including this -- >> alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, russia, and on our other side the land boundary that we have with canada. it's funny that a comment like that was kind of made to -- i don't know, you know, as putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the united states of america, where do they go? it's alaska. it just right over the border. >> john mccain and his fellow traveler, the little liar lindsay graham, stopped being responsible for what they say and what they do a long, long time ago.
john mccain did that. it was the greatest act of sheer irresponsibility i have ever seen in a presidential candidate. here is something that john mccain has never once said about sarah palin. >> we're all responsible for what we say and what we do. >> he has never said that. never once said that sarah palin has ever, ever said anything that perhaps she shouldn't have said. he defended every word sarah palin said as his choice to be vice president of the united states, including this...
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john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to respond to what was a messaging campaign that didn't work? >> well, i think most of our leadership is relatively new. i've been in the leadership a year. the two job above me have only held those junes for a year. i don't know if that would have the same impact. i think a lot of what happened this cycle and last cycle was so unprecedented in the way that people are reacting to outside assistance. and other things, that i'm not sure that would have had a lot of political impact, no matter what we did. but i do clearly think we need to communicate better. we need to have a message th
john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to respond...
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john kerry has long, i think, wanted to be secretary of state. and that's not a secret in washington. and he is many people believe superbly qualified. by my reporting, some prefer to have susan rice. but according to democrats, she's been badly damaged by the benghazi situation and needs to go through the process. they are not sure she could be confirmed. so the floating of john kerry for defense would perhaps clear the way or ease the way for susan rice to get confirmed for state. but it's not clear that it will work. >> andrea mitchell, i could talk to you all night tonight. there's so much going on. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> her show is at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. i'm telling you, must-see tv. >>> turns out the election isn't over. stay tuned for that. including the music and everything. that's coming up next. [ male announcer ] sponges take your mark. [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... to clean 2x more greasy d
john kerry has long, i think, wanted to be secretary of state. and that's not a secret in washington. and he is many people believe superbly qualified. by my reporting, some prefer to have susan rice. but according to democrats, she's been badly damaged by the benghazi situation and needs to go through the process. they are not sure she could be confirmed. so the floating of john kerry for defense would perhaps clear the way or ease the way for susan rice to get confirmed for state. but it's...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national l
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley, one senior u.s. defense official tells the "washington post." "the post" also reports that allen received at least one e-mail that talks about kelley from an unidentified account that was traced to none other than paula broadwell. well, there you have it. you're investigating this. i tried to explain this, and i'm trying not to be light-hearted, but there's such an aspect to this story rather well below the importance of the positions these men hold. one of them being, of course, our commander in afghanistan. the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the
it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley, one senior u.s. defense official tells the "washington post." "the post" also reports that allen...
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this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october, allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley, the same jill kelley who received questionable e-mails from paula broadwell. the fbi's investigation into those e-mails eventually revealed broadwell's affair with general petraeus which eventually led to petraeus' resignation. remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is
this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october, allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley, the same jill kelley who received questionable...
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why has john mccain become this john mccain? he's like the joker in batman. you know, life's been good to me. what happened to that guy? >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices, and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. and the intelligence there. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that hillary clinton wanted to beef up embassy and consulate security? there are some questions that republicans who opposed that need to answer. that's one of the reasons those people lost their lives. >> it's sad. it's sad to see this deterioration. thank you, ron reagan, and thank you, jonathan alter. you guys were incisive tonight. >>> coming up, there are dog whistles and then there are bull horns, and another republican official is blowing his next. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. so you say men are superio
why has john mccain become this john mccain? he's like the joker in batman. you know, life's been good to me. what happened to that guy? >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices, and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. and the intelligence there. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk...
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and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that somehow the country would categorically reject the president because we had, that the country would somehow say to itself, you know, we can't live with this new land of big government health care, big government spending, et cetera, because we can't. and that's fine. the problem was in articulating to the american people why we can't live with those things, why those things are bad, and instead, as you have noted many times on this program, we got waylaid by conversations about women's bodies and abortion and th
and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a...